reviewer-meeting prep: CI promotion + 3rd-party licenses + output_uv_map(ID) + briefing trio #19
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**Cue to move on**: when they have no more "where is X?" questions.
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## §2 The five questions — 30 min
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## §2 The seven questions — 35 min
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Goal: get clear answers to as many of the 5 questions in
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[`questions.md`](questions.md) as possible. Order matters:
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Goal: get clear answers to as many of the 7 questions in
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[`questions.md`](questions.md) as possible. Order is chosen so the
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research-relevant questions come *first* (their answer has the largest
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downstream effect on the roadmap):
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1. **Q4 first** (CGAL submission strategy — single package vs five).
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This sets the framing for the rest. ~5 min.
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2. **Q1** (Phase 9c port-literal vs re-derive). ~5 min.
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3. **Q2** (Phase 9b-analytic — is the 6× speedup worth ~2 weeks?).
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May trigger longer math discussion; cap at 10 min and offer to
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continue async.
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4. **Q5** (GC-1 cross-validation co-authorship). ~5 min.
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5. **Q3** (CP-Euclidean output_uv_map). ~5 min.
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1. **Q1 — research-track alignment** (which of 9d.2 / 9f / 10c / 10c′
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would unblock concrete experiments?). ~8 min. Most likely to
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make them feel the project is genuinely *for* their work, not just
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adjacent to it.
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2. **Q2 — decorated-DCE API surface** (A/B/C named parameter vs new
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solver vs property-map auto-detect). ~7 min. Sets a concrete
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shape we can sketch in code right after the meeting.
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3. **Q3 — Phase 9b-analytic** (Schläfli Hessian — implement now?).
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~8 min. May trigger longer math discussion; cap at 10 min and
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offer to continue async via the derivation note.
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4. **Q5 — GC-1 cross-validation co-authorship**. ~4 min. Read the
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room: if they're warm, push; if cool, leave as "let me follow up
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in writing".
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5. **Q4 — Phase 9c port-literal vs re-derive** (algorithm choice).
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~4 min. Less critical than Q1–Q3 because we have a viable default
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either way.
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6. **Q6 — CGAL submission packaging** (one package vs several).
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~4 min. Project-management question; their answer is *advisory*
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even if it's confident.
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**Trap to avoid**: don't relitigate any of the already-made decisions
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(e.g. Surface_mesh as default, Eigen as backend) unless they bring it
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up under "anything you'd say no to". Move forward, not sideways.
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Keep Q4/Q6 *short* — they are project management; Q1–Q3 are the
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research-flavoured ones their time is best spent on.
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## §3 The "no" question — 5 min
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## §3 Q7 — the "no" question — 5 min
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Last paragraph of [`questions.md`](questions.md): *"Is there one
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architecture decision where you think 'no, that's the wrong call'?"*
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[`questions.md`](questions.md) §Q7: *"Is there one architecture
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decision where you think 'no, that's the wrong call'?"*
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Ask explicitly. Wait. Don't fill silence. Negative feedback at this
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phase is the highest-value information of the entire meeting.
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## §4 Wrap-up — 5 min
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- **Summarise**: 1 sentence per Q1–Q5 answer.
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- **Summarise**: 1 sentence per Q1–Q7 answer.
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- **Next steps**:
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- Items they offered to help on (if any) → I'll send a follow-up
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email within 48 h.
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Reviewer: ____
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Duration: ____ min
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Q1 answer: ____
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Q2 answer: ____
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Q3 answer: ____
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Q4 answer: ____
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Q5 answer: ____
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"No" pointer: ____
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Q1 answer (research-track alignment): ____
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Q2 answer (decorated-DCE API): ____
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Q3 answer (Phase 9b-analytic): ____
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Q4 answer (Phase 9c port choice): ____
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Q5 answer (GC-1 co-authorship): ____
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Q6 answer (CGAL packaging): ____
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Q7 "no" pointer: ____
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Action items:
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[ ] (within 48 h) ____
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@@ -33,6 +33,42 @@ The landing page is a hand-curated reviewer hub, not an auto-generated
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index. It links to the Doxygen API, the key markdown documents, and
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shows static quality-gate status.
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## Research alignments — where this library could be infrastructure for your work
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The current snapshot already contains, or has roadmap entries for,
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the following:
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| Your research thread | What this snapshot has | Phase |
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| **Decorated DCE in non-Euclidean geometries** (Bobenko–Lutz 2025, *DCG*) | five DCE solvers + traits scaffolding; non-Euclidean cone extension scoped in research-track with acceptance criteria | **9d.2** RESEARCH (planned) |
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| **Canonical Delaunay tessellations of decorated hyperbolic surfaces** (Lutz 2023, *Geom. Dedicata*; Lutz 2024 PhD thesis) | cut-graph + period matrix + hyperbolic-disk layout as scaffolding; canonical-tessellation algorithm itself outlined | **10c** planned |
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| **Hyperideal polyhedra rigidity** (Bowers–Bowers–Lutz 2026) | HyperIdeal functional + analytic Hessian derivation (805-line LaTeX note) | **9b-analytic** derived; **10c′** KAT planned |
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| **Optimal cone placement / non-Euclidean cone metrics** (Crane et al. 2018) | Cone-singularity port via `ConesUtility` scoped; the *non-Euclidean* extension is the research delta | **9d.1** port + **9d.2** RESEARCH |
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| **Polygon Laplacian on general meshes** (Alexa–Wardetzky 2011; Alexa 2020) | no Java parent; first phase a reviewer can shape at design stage | **9f** RESEARCH (planned) |
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| **Schläfli-based variational machinery** (Rivin–Springborn 1999) | derivation done, implementation gated on your view of whether the ~6× speedup over our block-FD path matters at your mesh sizes | **9b-analytic** ready to implement |
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See [`doc/roadmap/research-track.md`](../roadmap/research-track.md)
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for the per-phase acceptance criteria and
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[`doc/roadmap/phases.md`](../roadmap/phases.md) for the porting plan.
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## What's new on this snapshot (since the previous publish)
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- **+6 new porting-roadmap phases** (9d cones / 9e circle-pattern
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layout / 10d Koebe circle-domain / 10e quasi-isothermic / 10f Koebe
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polyhedra / 10g cyclic-symmetry quotients) derived from a full
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Java-library scan.
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- **+9 literature citations** integrated into the roadmap, all
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Tier-1/2 in the research line above (Bobenko–Lutz 2024 IMRN;
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Bobenko–Lutz 2025 DCG; Lutz 2023 Geom. Dedicata; Lutz 2024 PhD;
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Bowers–Bowers–Lutz 2026; Crane et al. 2018; Alexa–Wardetzky 2011;
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Alexa 2020; Rivin–Springborn 1999).
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- **Phase 9f** (polygon Laplacian on general meshes) added as
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RESEARCH-only — no Java parent — so you can influence its design
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before it exists.
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- **`output_uv_map`** now covers 4 of 5 DCE solvers (Inversive-Distance
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added; CP-Euclidean deferred to Phase 9c with a clear runtime error
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rather than silent failure).
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## What's true about this snapshot
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| Claim | Concrete evidence |
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## What we want from you
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Five concrete questions are in
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Seven concrete questions are in
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[`doc/reviewer/questions.md`](questions.md) — please skim them
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beforehand. They are deliberately scoped: each can be answered with
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"go this way" / "no, go that way" / "either is fine".
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The high-stakes ones:
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Ordered by reviewer-value (the first two are the ones your research
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profile makes you best-positioned to answer):
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1. **Phase 9c (4g-polygon)** — port the Java implementation literally,
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or re-derive from Springborn 2020 §5?
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2. **Phase 9b-analytic** — is the ~6× speedup over our current block-FD
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Hessian (full Schläfli-based analytic) worth ~2 weeks? Working-mesh
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size that justifies it?
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3. **CGAL submission strategy** — submit as a single package or split
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the five DCE solvers into separate packages?
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1. **Q1 — Research-track alignment** — of the three RESEARCH-track
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phases (9d.2 non-Euclidean cones, 9f polygon Laplacian, 10c
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canonical tessellations + 10c′ Koebe polyhedra), which would
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unblock concrete experiments you have wanted to run?
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2. **Q2 — Decorated-DCE API surface** — what's the minimum public
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API for Penner-coordinate / decorated-DCE work? Named parameter
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on the existing Euclidean entry, separate `decorated_*` solvers,
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or per-edge decoration weights via property maps?
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3. **Q3 — Phase 9b-analytic** — is the ~6× speedup over the current
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block-FD Hessian worth ~2 weeks of implementation, at the mesh
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sizes you typically work with?
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4. **Q4 — Phase 9c (4g-polygon)** — port the Java implementation
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literally, or re-derive from Springborn 2020 §5?
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5. **Q5 — geometry-central cross-validation (GC-1)** — would you
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be interested in co-authoring a Newton-vs-Ptolemy-flips comparison?
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6. **Q6 — CGAL submission strategy** — one package or several?
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7. **Q7 — The "no" question** — looking at our 12 architecture
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decisions, is there one you would push back on?
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## What's deliberately deferred (so we can discuss with you first)
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> "do A" / "do B" / "either is fine" is a sufficient answer; deeper
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> dives are welcome but not required.
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These are the five decisions that would benefit most from a second
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opinion. Items 1-3 affect the porting roadmap directly; 4-5 affect
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the long-term goal (CGAL submission).
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These are the seven items that would benefit most from a second opinion.
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* **Q1–Q2** are research-track questions — your active publication line
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in **decorated DCE / Penner coordinates / canonical tessellations /
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hyperideal polyhedra** makes you the best-positioned reader for them.
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They ask whether conformallab++ could become *infrastructure for your
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own future numerical experiments*, and what the minimum API surface
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would be.
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* **Q3–Q4** are porting decisions in our roadmap where your view of the
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underlying mathematics would change the answer.
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* **Q5–Q6** are project-management questions where peer input is
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valuable but not blocking.
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* **Q7** is an open invitation to push back on any architecture
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decision you think we got wrong.
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---
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## Q1 — Phase 9c (4g-polygon canonical form): port-literal vs re-derive?
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## Q1 — Research-track alignment: which RESEARCH phase would unblock concrete experiments you want to run?
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Three phases in `doc/roadmap/research-track.md` are research-only
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(no Java parent, no immediate user request), but each maps onto a
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recognised live research line and each has explicit acceptance
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criteria:
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| Phase | What it would add | Closest published line |
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| **9d.2** | Decorated DCE in non-Euclidean (spherical + hyperbolic) geometries; Penner coordinates as first-class DOF; automatic cone placement for non-Euclidean targets | Decorated DCE in non-Euclidean geometries (2025, *Discrete Comput. Geom.*); optimal cone singularities for Euclidean flattening (2018, *SIGGRAPH*) |
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| **9f** | Discrete Laplace–Beltrami on **non-triangular** polygonal meshes (virtual-node / generalised cotangent), making DCE work on quad / Voronoi tessellations without re-triangulation | Polygon Laplacians (2011 *SIGGRAPH* + 2020 *TOG*) |
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| **10c + 10c′** | Canonical Delaunay tessellations of decorated hyperbolic surfaces; Koebe polyhedron realisation (KAT) with rigidity-aware Newton | Canonical tessellations of decorated hyperbolic surfaces (2023, *Geom. Dedicata*); rigidity of circle / hyperideal polyhedra (2026, preprint) |
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**Question A:** which of these (if any) would unblock concrete
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numerical experiments you have wanted to run but currently have no
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reference implementation for?
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**Question B:** for the one(s) you would use, would you want us to
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target the *next* milestone after Phase 9c, or is there a different
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order that would serve your research better?
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Context:
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[`research-track.md`](../roadmap/research-track.md) §"Non-Euclidean
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cone extensions" and §"Polygon Laplacian"; the integrated literature
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sits in [`math/references.md`](../math/references.md).
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---
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## Q2 — Decorated-DCE API surface: what would you need from us to use the library for Penner-coordinate work?
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If you wanted to compute the variational energy + Newton update for
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**decorated discrete conformal equivalence** (vertex `u`-DOFs plus
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per-edge Penner decoration `λ_e`), the existing five-solver scaffold
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gives us three plausible API directions:
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- **(A) Named parameter on the existing Euclidean entry.**
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`discrete_conformal_map_euclidean(mesh, parameters::penner_decoration_map(λ))`.
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Smallest change; preserves the single-entry-per-geometry pattern;
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hides the decoration as "just another property map".
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- **(B) Separate `decorated_*` solver headers.**
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New entry `CGAL::decorated_discrete_conformal_map_{euclidean,
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spherical, hyperbolic}` with its own `Default_decorated_*_traits`.
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Cleaner separation of concerns; mirrors the way CP-Euclidean and
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Inversive-Distance are their own headers.
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- **(C) Per-edge decoration as just another property map** that the
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existing solvers consume when present (zero-decoration = current
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behaviour by construction). Minimal API expansion; risk of
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surprising convergence behaviour when decoration is silently zero
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vs explicitly zero.
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**Question:** which of A / B / C matches what you would expect from
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a CGAL-style header? If "none of the above" — what would you write
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in our place?
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Context: Phase 9d.2 in
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[`research-track.md`](../roadmap/research-track.md); the existing
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named-parameter helpers in
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[`code/include/CGAL/Conformal_map/internal/parameters.h`](../../code/include/CGAL/Conformal_map/internal/parameters.h).
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---
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## Q3 — Phase 9b-analytic Hessian: implement now or later?
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We have:
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- **Done**: per-face block-FD Hessian (96× faster than naive full-FD).
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- **Derived but not implemented**: analytic Hessian via the Schläfli
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identity, expected ~6× further speedup over block-FD.
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- **Derivation document**:
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[`doc/math/hyperideal-hessian-derivation.md`](../math/hyperideal-hessian-derivation.md)
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(805 lines, all sign pitfalls covered, references Schläfli 1858,
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Milnor 1982, Vinberg 1993, Cho–Kim 1999, Glickenstein 2011,
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Springborn 2020, Rivin–Springborn 1999).
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**Question:**
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- At what mesh size does the ~6× become user-visible enough to
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justify ~2 weeks of implementation work, given the typical sizes
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in your work?
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- Are you aware of subtleties in the Schläfli-based derivation our
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document might be missing?
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If the answer is "implement", we'd target Phase 9b-analytic right
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after the meeting.
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---
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## Q4 — Phase 9c (4g-polygon canonical form): port-literal vs re-derive?
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The Java original has two utility classes:
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@@ -38,48 +136,30 @@ Context: `doc/roadmap/phases.md` §Phase 9c, `doc/roadmap/porting-status.md`.
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---
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## Q2 — Phase 9b-analytic Hessian: implement now or later?
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## Q5 — geometry-central cross-validation (GC-1): would you co-author?
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We have:
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Two libraries solve the DCE problem from opposite algorithmic
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directions:
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- **Done**: per-face block-FD Hessian (96× faster than naive full-FD).
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- **Derived but not implemented**: analytic Hessian via the Schläfli
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identity, expected ~6× further speedup over block-FD.
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- **Derivation document**:
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[`doc/math/hyperideal-hessian-derivation.md`](../math/hyperideal-hessian-derivation.md)
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(805 lines, all sign pitfalls covered, references Schläfli 1858,
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Milnor 1982, Vinberg 1993, Cho-Kim 1999, Glickenstein 2011,
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Springborn 2020).
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- **conformallab++**: Newton on the fixed mesh (no intrinsic flips).
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- **geometry-central**: Ptolemy flips on an intrinsic triangulation.
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**Question**:
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An automated comparison on common meshes would be:
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- At what mesh size does the ~6× become user-visible enough to
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justify ~2 weeks of implementation work?
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- Are you aware of subtleties in the Schläfli-based derivation our
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document might be missing?
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- A short paper (the disagreement modes are interesting in their own
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right and connect to the decorated-DCE framework via canonical
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tessellation invariants).
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- A confidence-building tool for both libraries.
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- ~3 days of plumbing (CMake-fetch geometry-central, write 5 common
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test meshes, compare `u_per_vertex` to a tolerance).
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If the answer is "implement", we'd target Phase 9b-analytic right
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after the meeting.
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**Question:** would you be interested in co-authoring such a comparison
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note (with us doing the implementation)? Or do you know someone in a
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neighbouring group who would be a natural co-author?
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---
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## Q3 — `output_uv_map` for CP-Euclidean: build now or defer?
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For CP-Euclidean (face-based DOFs, BPS 2010) the natural output is a
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**per-face circle packing** in ℝ² — not a per-vertex `Point_2` map
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the way the other four DCE entries produce.
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Today the entry throws `std::runtime_error` with a helpful pointer if
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the caller passes `output_uv_map(...)`. A faithful layout would be
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~150 lines implementing BPS-2010 §6.
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**Question**: do *your* CP-Euclidean use cases need a UV-like output,
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or are the face circle radii themselves the deliverable? The answer
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shapes whether Phase 9c gets it now or later.
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---
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## Q4 — CGAL submission strategy: one package or five?
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## Q6 — CGAL submission strategy: one package or several?
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For the long-term CGAL submission:
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@@ -94,34 +174,31 @@ Today the code is structured per-functional (Strategy C — see
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[`locked-vs-flexible.md`](../architecture/locked-vs-flexible.md) §7).
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Either submission packaging is achievable from this base.
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**Question**: what's the CGAL editor convention for related-but-distinct
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algorithms — Polygon_mesh_processing as one example (one package, many
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algorithms), vs Triangulation_2/Triangulation_3/Periodic_*/Hyperbolic_*
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as another (multiple packages for related algorithms)?
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**Question:** what's the CGAL editor convention for related-but-distinct
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algorithms — `Polygon_mesh_processing` as one example (one package, many
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algorithms), vs `Triangulation_2`/`Triangulation_3`/`Periodic_*`/
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`Hyperbolic_*` as another (multiple packages for related algorithms)?
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---
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## Q5 — geometry-central cross-validation (GC-1)
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## Q7 — The "no" question (this is the highest-value answer)
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Two libraries solve the DCE problem from opposite algorithmic
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directions:
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Looking at any of the 12 architecture decisions in
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[`locked-vs-flexible.md`](../architecture/locked-vs-flexible.md), is
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there one where you think *"no, that's the wrong call, here's why"*?
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- **conformallab++**: Newton on the fixed mesh (no intrinsic flips).
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- **geometry-central**: Ptolemy flips on an intrinsic triangulation.
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This is a deliberately blunt question because positive feedback is
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nice but negative feedback is rarer and more valuable. The 🔴
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load-bearing decisions are the most consequential to revisit, because
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waiting longer makes them more expensive:
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An automated comparison on common meshes would be:
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- **#1** `CGAL::Surface_mesh<P>` as default mesh
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- **#3** header-only, no compiled library
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- **#6** Eigen as linear-algebra back-end
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- **#11** MIT license (only relevant if it conflicts with a CGAL-
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submission constraint)
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- A nice paper (the disagreement modes are interesting in their own
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right).
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- A confidence-building tool for both libraries (we benefit from
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catching corner-case bugs, they benefit from cross-validation
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against a Newton baseline).
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- ~3 days of plumbing (CMake-fetch geometry-central, write 5 common
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test meshes, compare `u_per_vertex` to a tolerance).
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**Question**: would you be interested in co-authoring such a comparison
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note (with us doing the implementation)? Or do you know someone in
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the Crane group who would?
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"No" is the most useful answer.
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---
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@@ -133,21 +210,24 @@ the Crane group who would?
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[`code/deps/THIRD-PARTY-LICENSES.md`](../../code/deps/THIRD-PARTY-LICENSES.md)).
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- Build system (CMake ≥ 3.20, header-only consumer + optional
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CLI/Viewer).
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- Documentation tooling (Doxygen with auto-generated `headers.md`).
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These are conscious decisions matched to CGAL conventions and aren't
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load-bearing in the sense that revisiting them later is cheap.
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These are conscious decisions matched to CGAL conventions and are
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not load-bearing in the sense that revisiting them later is cheap.
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---
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## What I'm hoping you'll say "no" to
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## After the meeting — would you collaborate?
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This is a deliberately blunt question because positive feedback is
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nice but negative feedback is rarer and more valuable:
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A separate "after the meeting" conversation, but flagged here so it
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does not surprise you on the day:
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**Looking at any of the 12 architecture decisions in
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[`locked-vs-flexible.md`](../architecture/locked-vs-flexible.md), is
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there one where you think "no, that's the wrong call, here's why"?**
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The 🔴 load-bearing decisions are the most consequential to revisit,
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because waiting longer makes them more expensive. No is the most
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useful answer.
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- **Acknowledgement** in any future CGAL submission / paper would be
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the default, and we would ask first.
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- **Co-authorship** on Q5 (the GC-1 cross-validation note) is on the
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table if you said yes there.
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- **Periodic update cadence** (quarterly? per-milestone?) — open
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question, no expectation.
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- **Pull requests** from your side are welcome and reviewable on the
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Codeberg repo. We would not expect them — but we would not turn
|
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them away either.
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